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Wealth, Fame & Ambition

Money, property, status, honours, office, the good opinion of the crowd: the Stoics classed all of it as indifferent - not forbidden, not shameful, simply incapable of making a life good or bad. You may pursue these things. You may not stake yourself on them. The passages run from the practical to the caustic. Marcus deflates posthumous fame by pointing out that the people whose applause you want will shortly be dead, and that applause was only ever a clapping of tongues.

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"Ponder, too, the life led by others long ago, the life that will be led after you, the life being led in uncivilized races; how many do not even know your name, how many will very soon forget it and how many who praise you perhaps now will very soon blame you; and that neither memorial nor fame nor anything else at all is worth a thought."

— Marcus Aurelius, The Meditations 9.30

"This was not the vice of Alexander alone, who followed with a fortunate audacity in the footsteps of Bacchus and Hercules, but it is common to all those whose covetousness is whetted rather than appeased by good fortune."

— Seneca, On Benefits 7.03

"He did not think of who offered the citizenship, but to whom they had granted it; and being altogether the slave of glory, though he knew neither its true nature or its limits, had followed in the footsteps of Hercules and Bacchus, and had not even stayed his march where they ceased; so that he glanced aside from the givers of this honour to him with whom he shared it, and fancied that the heaven to which his vanity aspired was indeed opening before him when he was made equal to Hercules."

— Seneca, On Benefits 1.13

"All those treasures, which make you swell with pride, and soar above mere mortals, till you forget the weakness of your nature; all that which you lock up in iron-grated treasuries, and guard in arms, which you win from other men with their lives, and defend at the risk of your own; for which you launch fleets to dye the sea with blood, and shake the walls of cities, not knowing what arrows fortune may be preparing for you behind your back; to gain which you have so often violated all the ties of relationship, of friendship, and of colleagueship, till the whole world lies crushed between the two combatants: all these are not yours; they are a kind of deposit, which is on the point of passing into other hands: your enemies, or your heirs, who are little better, will seize upon them."

— Seneca, On Benefits 6.03

"In this way even the majority perceive the difference, otherwise this proverb would not in the one case offend and be disclaimed, whereas in the case of wealth and the blessings which lead to luxury or show we accept it as a witticism to fit the case."

— Marcus Aurelius, The Meditations 5.12

"Those who rather run after fame in the future leave out of account that men hereafter will be just such others as these whom they find hard to bear, and those men, too, will be liable to death."

— Marcus Aurelius, The Meditations 8.44

"If my riches leave me, they will carry away with them nothing except themselves: you will be bewildered and will seem to be left without yourself if they should pass away from you: with me riches occupy a certain place, but with you they occupy the highest place of all."

— Seneca, On the Happy Life XXII

"A procession's vain pomp, plays on a stage, flocks, herds, sham fights, a bone thrown to puppies, a crumb into fishponds, toiling and moiling of ants carrying their loads, scurrying of startled mice, marionettes dancing to strings."

— Marcus Aurelius, The Meditations 7.03

"The greatest hullabaloo is about money: this it is which wearies out the law-courts, sows strife between father and son, concocts poisons, and gives swords to murderers just as to soldiers: it is stained with our blood: on account of it husbands and wives wrangle all night long, crowds press round the bench of magistrates, kings rage and plunder, and overthrow communities which it has taken the labour of centuries to build, that they may seek for gold and silver in the ashes of their cities."

— Seneca, On Anger 3.33

"“My wish has always been that those who meet me should admire me, and those who follow me should exclaim ‘O the great philosopher.’ ” Who are they by whom you wish to be admired?"

— Epictetus, Discourses 1.21

In summary

Seneca contributes the most here and is also the most awkward source for it, having been one of the wealthiest men in Rome while writing that wealth is nothing. The charge of hypocrisy is old, and he answered it: the Stoic does not refuse fortune, but holds it loosely and can watch it go. Whether that answer satisfies you is worth deciding as you read. The doctrine of preferred indifferents makes room for wanting a comfortable life; the question these passages keep circling is how you can tell, from the inside, whether you are holding something loosely or just telling yourself you are.